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if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. >> right. it always tightens. something happened last night. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from arurubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in com
if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. >> right. it always tightens. something happened last night. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with...
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fast forward to this year's election and the same principle carries through. each side tried to convince voters that the other guy wanted to take the hatchet to medicare. >> the biggest, coldest power playç of all in obama care cam at the expense of the elderly. $716 billion, funneled out of medicare by president obama >> my plan's already extended medicare by nearly a decade. their plan ends medicare as we know it. >> on medicare, for current retirees, he's cutting is $716 billion from the program. i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. >> look, these guys haven't been big on medicare from the beginning. their party's not big on medicare from the beginning. folks, use your common sense. who do you trust on this? >> so, now, of course, given all the campaign rhetoric coming from both sides, we are on the other side of an election that proved that there is a bipartisan consensus, that it is bad to be the kind of politician that supports cutting medicare. and even giving that very recent lesson from the ele
fast forward to this year's election and the same principle carries through. each side tried to convince voters that the other guy wanted to take the hatchet to medicare. >> the biggest, coldest power playç of all in obama care cam at the expense of the elderly. $716 billion, funneled out of medicare by president obama >> my plan's already extended medicare by nearly a decade. their plan ends medicare as we know it. >> on medicare, for current retirees, he's cutting is $716...
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stole the election. that's why obama won. half the republicans say democrats are engaged in voter fraud. ron, i'm far more fascinated by the fact that all these republicans believe that a.c.o.r.n. -- how can you put your signature to that? how can somebody say to that openly on the telephone, well, i think a.c.o.r.n. did it? >> because they hear it on fox news. that's why. fox news beats the drum about this kind of stuff, and that's all these people listen to. they live in this bubble. >> i think they misheard it and they thought a unicorn stole the election. >> i mean a.c.o.r.n. they don't have a nickel to rub against another nickel, and they're running the country. thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill
stole the election. that's why obama won. half the republicans say democrats are engaged in voter fraud. ron, i'm far more fascinated by the fact that all these republicans believe that a.c.o.r.n. -- how can you put your signature to that? how can somebody say to that openly on the telephone, well, i think a.c.o.r.n. did it? >> because they hear it on fox news. that's why. fox news beats the drum about this kind of stuff, and that's all these people listen to. they live in this bubble....
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president obama is going to meet with mitt romney for the first time since the presidential elections. >> the president said that there are aspects of governor romney's record and governor romney's ideas that he believes could be very helpful. >> can the former foes work together? rick santorum challenged romney for the republican nomination. and he joins me now. great to see you. there's been so much criticism of romney in recent weeks, from your own party. when he made the comment on to the call with donors on how the president got voted because he gave roots to some voting blocs. today stewart stevens, romney's campaign chief tried to defend him in an op-ed. he said over the years, one of the movie more troubling characteristics of the democratic party -- losing is losing, so is losing just losing or are these criticisms that have come from people like bobby fare? >> i think it's important any time you lose is to do a review. there was a lot of discourse on the republican side, i certainly weighed in on that and how we need to do more of talking to folks who tried to rise the econo
president obama is going to meet with mitt romney for the first time since the presidential elections. >> the president said that there are aspects of governor romney's record and governor romney's ideas that he believes could be very helpful. >> can the former foes work together? rick santorum challenged romney for the republican nomination. and he joins me now. great to see you. there's been so much criticism of romney in recent weeks, from your own party. when he made the comment...
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. >>> in the costliest presidential election in u.s. history, the 2012 race saw not one but $2 billion spent. president obama and mitt romney each raised over a billion dollars a piece and that's just the campaigns and party committees. the obama camp raised $1.123 billion while the romney camp spent $1.019 billion just behind them. when you add in the spending by the super pacs, those numbers go way up. we'll be right back. ameriprisel was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! actually, honey, i think i did... oh? you did? whoa, ladies, easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. we can help avoid this with cascade complete pacs. see, over time, cascade complete pa
. >>> in the costliest presidential election in u.s. history, the 2012 race saw not one but $2 billion spent. president obama and mitt romney each raised over a billion dollars a piece and that's just the campaigns and party committees. the obama camp raised $1.123 billion while the romney camp spent $1.019 billion just behind them. when you add in the spending by the super pacs, those numbers go way up. we'll be right back. ameriprisel was founded back in 1894, they've been committed...
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the truth is, what the american people want and they have said in the election, you know, obama did win a major victory and the issue being debated was whether the wealthy are going to start paying their fair share of tacks what poll after poll says do not cut can social security and medicare and medicaid. ask the wealthy and large corporations to start paying their taxes. further, let's not forget, as a result of these rather bad agreements in 2010 and 2011, though i voted against, we've already cut a trillion dollars in programs for working families. >> you're right. the american people have said in the election as well as in the polling, 82% oppose reducing social security benefits. 67% oppose raising medicare eligibility age and 60% support raising taxes on the wealthy. so it doesn't even make political sense. >> that's what i don't get. and the other point, al, when they talk about changing the formula, so-called chain cpi for social security, let me tell you what it means. i want everybody to hear this. it means that if you're 65 today -- and this is going to go into effect immedi
the truth is, what the american people want and they have said in the election, you know, obama did win a major victory and the issue being debated was whether the wealthy are going to start paying their fair share of tacks what poll after poll says do not cut can social security and medicare and medicaid. ask the wealthy and large corporations to start paying their taxes. further, let's not forget, as a result of these rather bad agreements in 2010 and 2011, though i voted against, we've...
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shortly after the election, according, again, to my sources, clinton sent obama a list of five names from which he could choose the next chairman of the democratic national convention. lou: a list from clinton to the president? >> allis guys, or in some cases, his women. lou: dyou know who's on the list? >> i don't know the names on the list, but the people on the list, i'm told, were completelyignored -- completely ignored, and clinton learned that none of his people were even vetted or given serious consideration. clinton then lened, as we all did,that barack obama had reid appointed, wasserman-s crarks hulz, his woman, his lady, to the chair of the democratic national committee. what did he do? clinton phoned the president wants to complain about thisnd speak to the white house. speak to the president. the white house did not put his call through, and he never heard from thepresident for 24 hours. lou: i love the way you constructed that. the white house didn't put the call through. you didn't say the president declinedded to take the call. >> finally got a call, and an answer fro
shortly after the election, according, again, to my sources, clinton sent obama a list of five names from which he could choose the next chairman of the democratic national convention. lou: a list from clinton to the president? >> allis guys, or in some cases, his women. lou: dyou know who's on the list? >> i don't know the names on the list, but the people on the list, i'm told, were completelyignored -- completely ignored, and clinton learned that none of his people were even...
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they voted for and the reason he's doing it now is because none of the democratic senators that were elected, and they did a great job, they really kicked our butts with these senators, none of them, not a one of them ran on increasing taxes on anybody in this kind of recovery. that top 2% are the job creators. they're small businesses. >> he also wants congress to give up that leverage over the debt ceiling because that is also presenting itself as another ugly battle. and you know what, paul begala, it is being said that that is one heck of a piece of boehner leverage. >> well, it is. but i think it's outrageous. i think this brinksmanship about the budget and the fiscal cliff is all just fine. i don't want to go over the cliff. >> does the president want to go over? we got to listen to all the republicans and the conservative media today are saying president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff because then taxes go up across the board. >> which is not what the president wants, but there's a big difference between this fiscal cliff and the full faith and credit of the united states. th
they voted for and the reason he's doing it now is because none of the democratic senators that were elected, and they did a great job, they really kicked our butts with these senators, none of them, not a one of them ran on increasing taxes on anybody in this kind of recovery. that top 2% are the job creators. they're small businesses. >> he also wants congress to give up that leverage over the debt ceiling because that is also presenting itself as another ugly battle. and you know what,...
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ever since ronald reagan's election. >> sean: forget those eight years of clinton and four years of obama, it's reagan's fault. it's reagan's fault that on black friday people are killing themselves at victoria's secret. >> they're going after capitalism. the kids are being taught this stuff in school. it really is incredible. the crisis of capitalism. that's really what they're after. that's a core issue. >> sean: yeah, but there's a common theme, that all the troubles in the world are because of capitalism, because of conservatives, because of the few republican presidents that we've been able to squeeze in there over the years. al sharpton, barack obama's been president four years, but he's blaming republicans for the 14.5% unemployment rate that currently exists in the african american community. listen to this. >> blacks in particular are disproportionately in the public sector. one of the reasons those jobs have gone down, or have remained down, is, one, the republicans are cutting a lot of the agencies where we are the employees of government, jobs, government employees, and a lot
ever since ronald reagan's election. >> sean: forget those eight years of clinton and four years of obama, it's reagan's fault. it's reagan's fault that on black friday people are killing themselves at victoria's secret. >> they're going after capitalism. the kids are being taught this stuff in school. it really is incredible. the crisis of capitalism. that's really what they're after. that's a core issue. >> sean: yeah, but there's a common theme, that all the troubles in the...
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stole the 2012 election from president obama. the number is down only three points from the 2008 election. the problem is, folks, a.c.o.r.n., they shut their doors back in 2010. these poll numbers are absolutely shocking. but if you look at where republicans get their news, some sense can be made of all of this.ç in 2012, foxnews.com and its fringe sister site, fox nation, did five stories related to a.c.o.r.n. the fox news effect is nothing new, as long as fox news and right-wing talkers push information, the problem will continue. meanwhile, these poll numbers also show republicans are can't handle losing the election. 25% of republican voters say that they want to succeed from the union. and 19%, well, they're not really sure yet. it's safe to say that republicans are no longer the party of patriotism. a quarter of their members want nothing to do with this country. these misinformed republicans love to talk about our founding fathers. don't they always quote our founding fathers, those tea partyers out there? tonight i've p
stole the 2012 election from president obama. the number is down only three points from the 2008 election. the problem is, folks, a.c.o.r.n., they shut their doors back in 2010. these poll numbers are absolutely shocking. but if you look at where republicans get their news, some sense can be made of all of this.ç in 2012, foxnews.com and its fringe sister site, fox nation, did five stories related to a.c.o.r.n. the fox news effect is nothing new, as long as fox news and right-wing talkers...
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overwhelming support from latino voters lifted president obama to victory on election day. this is part of the reason latinos voted democrat. the president took action after years of failed attempts at reforming immigration. in june, president obama issued a directive to end the deportation of military students and veterans. 64% of americans agreed with the policy. independents backed it more than 2-1. the hispanic pew center estimates. the president's directive affected 1.4 million people. that's only 12% of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the united states. today, members of the caucus spelled out their thoughts about permanent change. >> america's immigrants have every right to feel anger about how they have been treated, ignored, lied to and ridiculed. we need to set that anger aside. >> we will find out if the republicans can set aside their differences or if they will disappoint a vital and important block. i am joined tonight by congressman luis gutierrez. good to have you with us tonight. >> thanks, ed. >> your caucus laid out nine principles for immigrati
overwhelming support from latino voters lifted president obama to victory on election day. this is part of the reason latinos voted democrat. the president took action after years of failed attempts at reforming immigration. in june, president obama issued a directive to end the deportation of military students and veterans. 64% of americans agreed with the policy. independents backed it more than 2-1. the hispanic pew center estimates. the president's directive affected 1.4 million people....
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ever since obama won the election, we are now in deal mode. i have to tell you, we're going to have a stellar year. it's going to be at a price. the price is going to be -- january is probably going to be much worse than predicted. february, march, et cetera. we're borrowing for the future, yet again. >> that's a really good point. is this just a short-term thing? next year in 2013, once we see cap gains taxes go much higher, which they probably will, do things slow down again? >> oh, yeah. i think it will slow down again. i think people will hunker down, particularly are the whole fiscal cliff story hanging. even if it goes over, which i predict it will -- >> so do i. >> diana, what are you seeing? >> in the high ends where dolly works, of course it's going to have a big effect. let's keep this in perspective when we look at the housing recovery. homes price ed over $1 million were just 1.7% of sales in october. this is a minuscule amount when you look at the overall housing market and the recovery. that's why we're not seeing prices come dow
ever since obama won the election, we are now in deal mode. i have to tell you, we're going to have a stellar year. it's going to be at a price. the price is going to be -- january is probably going to be much worse than predicted. february, march, et cetera. we're borrowing for the future, yet again. >> that's a really good point. is this just a short-term thing? next year in 2013, once we see cap gains taxes go much higher, which they probably will, do things slow down again? >>...
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listen, this is the same media to got president obama elected and now the same media that's going to brow beat anybody who goes against the agenda. and he says it's going to hurt us, we don't know to what degree, but no doubt about it the negative media coverage that focused on darden in the food segment service because we have to accommodate health care is going to impact our bottom line. stuart: are you sure it's because olive garden does not serve authentic italian food. >> and we're going to change where we eat at, we're going to choose to disregard the restaurants doing this. cheesecake factory, ovdave overton, he's doing the same thing. we have to cut elsewhere. >> and an organization, do you think that cheesecake-- >> every company that talked about this during the election, their brand identity plunged and the ceo's have been begging and pleading with the public, maybe we'll try something different. be careful. stuart: next, we hear from speak h er boehner, and raising taxes on the rich, he insists we do that, what will speaker boehner say. and a cartoon rich person out of ca
listen, this is the same media to got president obama elected and now the same media that's going to brow beat anybody who goes against the agenda. and he says it's going to hurt us, we don't know to what degree, but no doubt about it the negative media coverage that focused on darden in the food segment service because we have to accommodate health care is going to impact our bottom line. stuart: are you sure it's because olive garden does not serve authentic italian food. >> and we're...
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if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially young women. young people and young women, clearly they're going to help determine future elections. look, i think paul ryan and marco rubio, are trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and, perhaps, big ideas and a larger
if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it...
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obama scattered by failed negotiations in his first term and emboldened by his re-election has shown to be a dlimp different negotiate or. the white house reminded people what the president basically campaigned on saying that everybody knew going in what they were getting re-lecting th this stifle president. does he walk with confidence of re-election under his belt and is this the way it's going to go, nor mr. nice guy approach? >> i think the president believes very strongly that we can't repeat the mistakes of the past. that going back to tax cuts for the wealthiest americans, hoping that trickles down the rest of us have failed us for well over a decade. what we need to do instead is be serious about protecting the middle class and the republicans agree with that. don't hold those tax breaks for millionaires hostage. let's reduce taxes for the middle class. that's something that we all agree on fine let's get it done. if we believe we need to make certain investments which we do to grow the economy, in infrastructure and innovation and making sure america is always on the cutting
obama scattered by failed negotiations in his first term and emboldened by his re-election has shown to be a dlimp different negotiate or. the white house reminded people what the president basically campaigned on saying that everybody knew going in what they were getting re-lecting th this stifle president. does he walk with confidence of re-election under his belt and is this the way it's going to go, nor mr. nice guy approach? >> i think the president believes very strongly that we...
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. >> now, richard, president obama told "rolling stone" magazine that his past election would break the gop fever. he told the magazine, quote, my hope is if the american people send a message to republicans and they suffer some losses in this election, that there's going to be some self-reflection going on. that it might break the fever. they might say to themselves, you know what? we've lost our way here. we need to refocus on trying to get things done for the american people. richard, they lost some seats. they lost the election. is the fever about to break? >> it's interesting he used the language because that was the same language that vice president biden used when he was being interviewed by chris matthews on "hardball." the fever breaking is clearly a term of art in terms of what the white house seeins as the probl. as krystal's point, the politics has changed in some way. we don't have the deal set yet but when was the last time a democratic candidate had the guts to campaign saying that taxes would rise. republicans have had this game of fear playing out for many cycles now, t
. >> now, richard, president obama told "rolling stone" magazine that his past election would break the gop fever. he told the magazine, quote, my hope is if the american people send a message to republicans and they suffer some losses in this election, that there's going to be some self-reflection going on. that it might break the fever. they might say to themselves, you know what? we've lost our way here. we need to refocus on trying to get things done for the american people....
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but blacks -- let's see. 95% of african-americans voted for president obama in this last election. what do you make of that? what does that tell you? >> well, the first thing we have to start looking at is what it's going to take for us to get the respect of both parties, and that comes down to us being a people that are principled over anything else. we have 95% of any race that would vote for a person or party, it kind of helps them to be taken for granted. at this point, what does the democratic party have to do to win our vote? actually, just be around. so it's time for us as a people to start putting our principles first. i think we should be ashamed of ourselves in certain areas, those who decided that the education is so important to them, they have a passion for it. why would you vote for a person who decides the union is much more important for them. >> in other words, school choice. i'm going to read from the notes. you tell me if i'm wrong. but this is tough stuff. you say in your notes, obama is the most aggressive anti-black policymaker in modern history. that's tough
but blacks -- let's see. 95% of african-americans voted for president obama in this last election. what do you make of that? what does that tell you? >> well, the first thing we have to start looking at is what it's going to take for us to get the respect of both parties, and that comes down to us being a people that are principled over anything else. we have 95% of any race that would vote for a person or party, it kind of helps them to be taken for granted. at this point, what does the...
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you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement for barack obama. i felt it mooits. rallies and all the speeches. this time around it was an effective excitement. it wasn't wow, wow, wow, we love his speeches. the speeches by obama weren't great but it was effective. it was for other reasons they voted. what was that? how come it wasn't palpable that he wasn't going to get the same voting as he did last night. >> well, it was joel beens ton. it was clear as nate compiled it. i think john's right about it. there was an assumption inside the party that there was going to be a different electorate. you can't not explain simply by what your electorate was going to be those crazy momentum numbers that you showed that last weekend. there was something else wrong with that polling. >> what do you think it was? was it the getting together with governor christie and that great show of bipartisanship? was it the fact that your side couldn't push the benghazi issue that they were pushing for some weird reason before that? what changed the last week for obama? >> i think sandy c
you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement for barack obama. i felt it mooits. rallies and all the speeches. this time around it was an effective excitement. it wasn't wow, wow, wow, we love his speeches. the speeches by obama weren't great but it was effective. it was for other reasons they voted. what was that? how come it wasn't palpable that he wasn't going to get the same voting as he did last night. >> well, it was joel beens ton. it was clear as nate compiled it....
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here he is. >> they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house, but the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> objection. >> we need to find common ground and find it quickly. >> oh shut up. >> stephanie: common ground -- >> common ground do what i tell you to do. >> stephanie: how about the same thing you just -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: tom [ inaudible ] republican of oklahoma. >> i'm certain if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. this is a compromise on taxes -- >> stephanie: no it's not. and the aforementioned drama queen, lindsay gram. >> i'm pretty sure we have going over the cliff. >> good heavens! >> stephanie: oh, my god! i think we're going over the [ inaudible ] -- [ screaming ] >> stephanie: thank got i still have tara. >> are you implying that lindsay graham has warn pearls in his life? >> stephanie: no! >> his real name is ashley. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: frankly he does give a d
here he is. >> they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house, but the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> objection. >> we need to find common ground and find it quickly. >> oh shut up. >> stephanie: common ground -- >> common ground do what i tell you to do. >> stephanie: how about the same thing you just -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: tom [ inaudible ]...
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but you did mention barack obama, you did mention that he's the first african-american president to be re-elected and some talk about tim scott and the president of the idea of being post-racial. are we there? >> certainly not. the idea that we're breathless of the appointment of a black american appointed. also the gubernatorial position which is the other statewide position. look, we elect presidents from a very narrow categories of people. senators, governors, and vice presidents. until we have a substantial number of people as governors, senators, and vice presidents, we're not really looking at a time when our presidency will be dramatically different. >> and until we don't have to talk about this. >> right. >> don't forget to catch melissa perry as she hosts melissa harris-perry. >>> tragedy strikes the hospital. an employee connected to the prank calls by australian djs. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible...
but you did mention barack obama, you did mention that he's the first african-american president to be re-elected and some talk about tim scott and the president of the idea of being post-racial. are we there? >> certainly not. the idea that we're breathless of the appointment of a black american appointed. also the gubernatorial position which is the other statewide position. look, we elect presidents from a very narrow categories of people. senators, governors, and vice presidents....
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. >> president bill clinton got president obama re-elected, perhaps he can help him talk to the other side, like speaker gingrich. maybe if the president won't call speaker boehner, maybe he'll call bill clinton. governor, as always, thank you. >> thank you, good night. >> senator jeff sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of the shadows. why does he accuse the president of secret negotiations? that's next. many small business owners saying they can't pay for obamacare. but that's not the only thing about the health care law that has them worried. a las vegas business owner tells you about another big problem, one you probably haven't heard about before that may be your problem. plus, he's back. who could forget the drunk guy singing bohemian rhapsody in a police car. wait until you see what he is up to now. you don't want to miss this. it istory of moms, has ever turned down a handmade ornament. that's why we sat up santa's wonderland at bass pro shops. kids can get their free picture with santa, and this week make a... all for free. >> greta: what is the big secret
. >> president bill clinton got president obama re-elected, perhaps he can help him talk to the other side, like speaker gingrich. maybe if the president won't call speaker boehner, maybe he'll call bill clinton. governor, as always, thank you. >> thank you, good night. >> senator jeff sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of the shadows. why does he accuse the president of secret negotiations? that's next. many small business owners saying they can't pay for...
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. >> he got barack obama elected. that's the view of "time" magazine. >> bill: isn't that a partisan thing? i mean maybe that's true but isn't that a partisan thing? he is a person of the year. >> i think you might be on to something. i think there might be partisanship over at "time" magazine. >> bill: that shouldn't be. that's not what we are in business to do here. >> let me make a bold prediction here. it's going to be barack obama. >> bill: yes, it will. that's what i said and you are right. if you agree with me you are right. this is what we should always -- >> i know how to works. [ laughter ] >> bill: he would have to be because the president overcame vast odds and shut have lost the election. let's be honest with the economic profile that we have and he won. did he something extraordinary and that i think has to be criteria. you can't discount psy. [ laughter ] there is a guy who has more than 800 million hits. >> tight race. >> bill: look at him. is that not the person of the year right there? i think the um
. >> he got barack obama elected. that's the view of "time" magazine. >> bill: isn't that a partisan thing? i mean maybe that's true but isn't that a partisan thing? he is a person of the year. >> i think you might be on to something. i think there might be partisanship over at "time" magazine. >> bill: that shouldn't be. that's not what we are in business to do here. >> let me make a bold prediction here. it's going to be barack obama. >>...
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you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement for obama. i felt it myself obviously at the rallies we'd go to. all the speeches. this time around it was an effective excitement. it wasn't we love this guy's speeches. the speeches weren't that great this time by obama, but it was effectively excited because they decided to vote for other reasons. i think voter suppression efforts besides. how come it wasn't palpable that this guy was going to get the same turnout he got last time? >> well, it was clear to joel benenson who was the obama pollster and who got it right on the money. it was clear in the average polls. i think john is right about this, there was an assumption inside the party that there was going to be a different electorate. you cannot explain simply by your conception of what the electorate was going to be those crazy momentum numbers that you showed over the last weekend. there was something else wrong with that polling. >> what do you think it was? was it getting together with governor christie and that great show of bipartis
you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement for obama. i felt it myself obviously at the rallies we'd go to. all the speeches. this time around it was an effective excitement. it wasn't we love this guy's speeches. the speeches weren't that great this time by obama, but it was effectively excited because they decided to vote for other reasons. i think voter suppression efforts besides. how come it wasn't palpable that this guy was going to get the same turnout he got last...
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obama and his allies are less willing to look at these benefits programs after his election last month. >> yeah. >> stephanie: obama possesses far more leverage than he did in the budget talks with boner last year. here we go again, right. >> you act like you won or something. >> stephanie: okay. all right. rhone in chicago. >> caller: hi, stephanie. first time caller so i'm glad i get a chance to get in and talk with you. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: so many things to talk about, but i wanted to talk about the extremism that i see in the republican party. for me i'm an infantry officer, a software engineer. i have gone from voting republican and i lose myself as moderate republican, and conservative democrat somewhere in that -- >> stephanie: in the nuggety center. >> caller: yeah. the way this election has gone it has turned me very much to the left. the way the republicans have acted, they are turned me off from their party all together. >> stephanie: we welcome you into the soft cocoon of socialism. [♪ mysterious music ♪] >> stephanie: go ahead. >> caller: but the democratic
obama and his allies are less willing to look at these benefits programs after his election last month. >> yeah. >> stephanie: obama possesses far more leverage than he did in the budget talks with boner last year. here we go again, right. >> you act like you won or something. >> stephanie: okay. all right. rhone in chicago. >> caller: hi, stephanie. first time caller so i'm glad i get a chance to get in and talk with you. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller:...
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>> i absolutely do, because they all seem to have reached a crescendo once president obama was elected. so i don't see how people could think there's not a racial component. and it's unfortunate, though, when you point that out, they want to push back and say you're using the race card, but the reality is that the attacks on this president are unprecedented. the reality is, also, that he's needed security and had more secret service threats against him based on race than anybody else in the history of the presidency. and those are real issues and louie gohmert is playing into it and that's also what makes this so irresponsible. >> you think their hatred for the president plays out in the legislative processes as well? i know it does. i mean, i believe it does. they, 368 filibusters. i mean, they don't want anything to do through from his agenda. they come up with the wildest conspiracy theories that we've ever heard. now, of course, the bombing of libya. i mean, it's pretty outrageous. how -- do you think in some certain ways that this is a motivating factor for the progressive base? >
>> i absolutely do, because they all seem to have reached a crescendo once president obama was elected. so i don't see how people could think there's not a racial component. and it's unfortunate, though, when you point that out, they want to push back and say you're using the race card, but the reality is that the attacks on this president are unprecedented. the reality is, also, that he's needed security and had more secret service threats against him based on race than anybody else in...
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remember on election night when president obama was reelected they told a story of his re-election. they went around the world to people reacting to it. rachel maddow went into this president obama. carl rove lost his mind. this was a smnapshot. i think he lost his mind. this is a snapshot. this is what jeff will preserve. >> america cares. people care. they care ware their country is going and the friends and neighbors and kids around them. there's lots to do here. >> the consensus is that cnn need a voice and zucker will help provide it. when we come back, the susan rice side. are the u.n. ambassador and her critics getting fair coverage? . you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, andtill pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles
remember on election night when president obama was reelected they told a story of his re-election. they went around the world to people reacting to it. rachel maddow went into this president obama. carl rove lost his mind. this was a smnapshot. i think he lost his mind. this is a snapshot. this is what jeff will preserve. >> america cares. people care. they care ware their country is going and the friends and neighbors and kids around them. there's lots to do here. >> the consensus...
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. >> including president obama actually making his appeal to business leaders on his tax plan. he's now reaching out following a very tough election campaign. >> and overseas, protests get violent in egypt where the once stable nation appears to be on the verge of crisis. first, let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock in new york city. we begin with 25 days to go until the year end fiscal cliff deadline for the first time in days president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday. both men agreeing not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. but the stalemate in negotiations entered bold new territory yesterday with treasury secretary tim geithner suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest members. only 2%. the size of the problem in some sense is so
. >> including president obama actually making his appeal to business leaders on his tax plan. he's now reaching out following a very tough election campaign. >> and overseas, protests get violent in egypt where the once stable nation appears to be on the verge of crisis. first, let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock in new york city. we begin with 25 days to go until the year end fiscal cliff deadline for the first time in days president obama and speaker boehner spoke...
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president obama did talk about climate change in his election night speech. there are signs that he thinks about this as kind of a legacy issue. he's someone who cares a lot about his legacy. this would be sort of a decade, century-long issue that would cement his place. >> ifill: we'll see what he does next, if anything. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. >> brown: again, the major developments of the day: house republicans made a counter-offer on how to avoid the "fiscal cliff." it calls for $2.2 trillion in savings over ten years, but no hike in tax rates. and the u.n. announced it's pulling nonessential international staffers from syria, while u.s. officials warned the syrian government not to use chemical weapons on its people. online, an update to a law in saudi arabia renews a debate about male guardianship. hari sreenivasan has more. >> sreenivasan: now whenever a saudi woman leaves the country, her husband or father receives a text message. the recent changes to the long- held system of male guardianship sparked outrage on twitter recently.
president obama did talk about climate change in his election night speech. there are signs that he thinks about this as kind of a legacy issue. he's someone who cares a lot about his legacy. this would be sort of a decade, century-long issue that would cement his place. >> ifill: we'll see what he does next, if anything. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. >> brown: again, the major developments of the day: house republicans made a counter-offer on how to avoid the...
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develop rent vent -- basketball as irrelevant in our lives please. >> president clinton go president obama reelected perhaps he can help him learn how to talk to the other side like he did with speaker gingrich and get something done. maybe in the president won't call speaker boehner, perhaps he will call bill clinton. i'm take the last word on that. governor as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> senator sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of shadows. why does he accuse the president of holding secret negotiations. he's here next. >> many small business owners saying they can't pay for obamacare. that is not the only thing about the health care law that has them worry. a las vegas business owner here to tell you about another problem. it may turn out to be your problem. >> plus, he's back! who could forget the drunk guy singing bohemian rhapsody in a police car. you don't want to miss this. ♪ ♪ this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices with unlimited ta
develop rent vent -- basketball as irrelevant in our lives please. >> president clinton go president obama reelected perhaps he can help him learn how to talk to the other side like he did with speaker gingrich and get something done. maybe in the president won't call speaker boehner, perhaps he will call bill clinton. i'm take the last word on that. governor as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> senator sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of shadows. why...
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and although president obama this because he got re-elected has he had has a mandate to do whatever he waumpbts, he forgets that the house republicans were also re-elected to kind of hold the line on spending. so no, i don't believe that would make it through congress. >> what about this utterance by the president today? instead of blasting congress, sort of saying he's keeping a list of congressmen? is this like a nixon enemy's list? we've seen this before from president obama. >> we have. we've seen multiple versions of the quote obama's enemies list. we saw the truth team, we've seen the white house work directly with the media matters to smear certain people that they don't like. and now we're seeing president obama say he has a naughty and nice list in order to make the nice list you have to push through his $1.6 trillion tax increase. so i think there'll be a lot of democrats who are actually making the naughty list this year. >> if he had actually come out with a program that had some spending cuts and some entitlement cuts instead of all tax increases, katy, maybe he'd be havin
and although president obama this because he got re-elected has he had has a mandate to do whatever he waumpbts, he forgets that the house republicans were also re-elected to kind of hold the line on spending. so no, i don't believe that would make it through congress. >> what about this utterance by the president today? instead of blasting congress, sort of saying he's keeping a list of congressmen? is this like a nixon enemy's list? we've seen this before from president obama. >>...
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. >> president obama did win the election. >> me thinks somebody made him king. >> no. i don't think that's right. >> he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> are we that far apart? >> both sides want a deal. >> a matter of math. >> try to stay away from hypotheticals. >> it won't pass. >> discussions about unicorns. >> unicorns. >> they're imaginary beasts. >> magic beans. >> magic math. >> an enchanted universe. >> outrageous. >> the whole thing is going wacky. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> i don't envy the position the speaker is in. >> we're nowhere. ? you just might feel under attack. >> john boehner's power move. >> roll over and do what i ask. >> having the reins on the tea party. >> does he have real allies at this point? >> conservative groups lashed out. >> tea party, too, will dwarf tea party one. >> you cannot be serious. >> john boehner's power move. >> roll over and do what i ask. >>> there are just 27 shopping days until we go off the curb which means there are just 27 days for john bainer to make house republica
. >> president obama did win the election. >> me thinks somebody made him king. >> no. i don't think that's right. >> he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> are we that far apart? >> both sides want a deal. >> a matter of math. >> try to stay away from hypotheticals. >> it won't pass. >> discussions about unicorns. >> unicorns. >> they're imaginary beasts. >> magic...